Unfortunately, this would require some sort of direct integration with All in one SEO. All in one SEO is written without any knowledge about Shopp or how Shopp integrates with WP. And likewise, Shopp is written to integrate with WP directly, not WP plus every plugin available.
Although Shopp uses the WordPress API and within as much of the plugin development guidelines as possible, these sorts of boundaries must be intentionally integrated within one or both.
It's a rather slippery slope to start having Shopp be responsible for integrating with every plugin that the Shopp user base wants. Especially considering how often third-party plugins are updated.
That said, I would gladly work with the author to find a future-proof sort of integration technique to make them play well together.
Actually Jon all that is really needed from All in One SEO is the ability to create custom fields for title, description and keywords. Title tags are by far the most important piece of the puzzle. When you create title tags for a WP post using All in One SEO, it saves them as custom fields. You could create the same functionality in Shopp with the addition of a couple of fields on the product page: Title, Description, Keywords.
Put it another way: If I feature a product in a blog post I sell the snot out of it; otherwise, it doesn't really sell at all.
So the question of SEO is paramount to the whole nature of having a store in the first place. And the most important part of that is title tags, descriptions, and keywords. Case in point: type "mediashout 4" in Google. After the manufacturer, we're the top listing. This is because of SEO. Before we applied SEO to the product, it was about 50th on the list.
Personally I don't use All in One SEO, but Headspace2. So integration (or whatever) with All in One SEO wouldn't help me.
I would be interested in a plugin that adds the possibility to create custom fields for Shopp (so, it doesn't have to be Shopp itself that creates the possibility). That way you can create the custom fields you want and it wouldn't matter which SEO plugin you're using.
The ability to have custom fields or being able to set individual product, category page title is paramount in my view. We are actually panelized by Google today they see each product page as duplicating meta-data. We want to call out our Products not bury them, I agree with vinyltoupee, we need this functionality.
This is a simple idea and a must for anyone expecting their products and categories to show up in Search Engine Result Pages. Are there any plans to include a page title, description, and keywords field on the add product and add category pages?
not sure when this will be implemented, for now I added this to my Shopp.php file at line 729 (1.08)
function titles ($title,$placement="left") {
$sep=" : ";
if (empty($this->Product->name) && empty($this->Category->name)) return $title;
if (!empty($this->Product->name)) $title = $this->Product->name.$sep.$title;
if (!empty($this->Category->name)) $title = $this->Category->name.$sep.$title;
return $title;
}
This prints out: Product Name : Category : Site Title
I'm with vinyltoupee on this one. Three fields for Title, Description and Keywords configurable directly from Shopp's product editor would be fantastic! Shopp products are the only area on our site where we can't easily configure this, and Shopp products are possibly where those are most needed. Thanks for considering this feature request!
So the Release notes for 1.0.9 now say that there is now "Added integration support for AIOSEOP canonical URLs". How do we update the Product URLs to be SEO Friendly URL's?
jmonson: Not sure if 1.09 has this fixed already.. but my snippet just forces the product title to be the First thing that shows up, and also adds the site title at the end. better for SEN suposedly
So is that all this Fix does? Just the product title - does it not do anything with URL's? What is the reference to URL's in the 1.0.9 release notes then?
Any ideas when/if SEO ideas will be implemented in Shopp, or to have it interact with Platinum SEO Pack or All in One SEO Pack?
- I miss being able to set a specific <Hx> tag for separate pages (with a smart header.php file using the "is_front_page()". It would be great if Shopp, for all separate pages - such as product, category and front pages - could support it.
- I need to be able to set separate headings for each product and category page. Can't get any of the two seo plugins to work properly with Shopp. Without Shopp it's no problem at all getting them to work.
Any progress on this? It's incredibly important to be able to customise page title, description & keywords (though keywords are pretty much ignored by Google now), h1's etc. Given that this is a shop, i.e. being used for commercial reasons then I would have though this should be top priority? Is there a problem that stops this being possible?
I'd really like to know as this is a deal breaker for us.
Headspace2 is a much better SEO plugin for wodpress. The developer for this plugin is very good and has others as well. You may even find a solution with him.
We wrote a quick little plugin to help with this. It'll allow the entry of a custom title/description for each product. As Google appears to have dropped keyword support a while ago, we didn't add support for that.
As for the Headspace2 vs. All-In-One SEO debate, I've used both. the AIOSEO seems easier to use. Although, I've been debating about stopping use of both plugins and just rolling the SEO into the theme using custom write panels.
SEO for Products - Like for Pages
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Any way I can enable the feature used in the plugin for All in ONE SEO. e.g Title,Keywords etc
I can SEO all the pages but is not showing for the products and would help heaps in the big G if I could!!
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Anyone...........?
Jon?
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I guess that's because the products aren't posts or pages, but get loaded into the Shop page (the the_content part of the page).
Don't know about plans for enabling SEO possibilities, but it would be a nice feature.
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Unfortunately, this would require some sort of direct integration with All in one SEO. All in one SEO is written without any knowledge about Shopp or how Shopp integrates with WP. And likewise, Shopp is written to integrate with WP directly, not WP plus every plugin available.
Although Shopp uses the WordPress API and within as much of the plugin development guidelines as possible, these sorts of boundaries must be intentionally integrated within one or both.
It's a rather slippery slope to start having Shopp be responsible for integrating with every plugin that the Shopp user base wants. Especially considering how often third-party plugins are updated.
That said, I would gladly work with the author to find a future-proof sort of integration technique to make them play well together.
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Actually Jon all that is really needed from All in One SEO is the ability to create custom fields for title, description and keywords. Title tags are by far the most important piece of the puzzle. When you create title tags for a WP post using All in One SEO, it saves them as custom fields. You could create the same functionality in Shopp with the addition of a couple of fields on the product page: Title, Description, Keywords.
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I know I would certainly benefit from the addition of this functionality.
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Put it another way: If I feature a product in a blog post I sell the snot out of it; otherwise, it doesn't really sell at all.
So the question of SEO is paramount to the whole nature of having a store in the first place. And the most important part of that is title tags, descriptions, and keywords. Case in point: type "mediashout 4" in Google. After the manufacturer, we're the top listing. This is because of SEO. Before we applied SEO to the product, it was about 50th on the list.
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Personally I don't use All in One SEO, but Headspace2. So integration (or whatever) with All in One SEO wouldn't help me.
I would be interested in a plugin that adds the possibility to create custom fields for Shopp (so, it doesn't have to be Shopp itself that creates the possibility). That way you can create the custom fields you want and it wouldn't matter which SEO plugin you're using.
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So all that needs doing is to enable the custom fields section which is standard in WP in the SHOP page???
Anyone added this in?
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Hi, if anyone had manage to added in the custom fields section in the product page do let me know. I'm keen to have this feature with shopp too.
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The ability to have custom fields or being able to set individual product, category page title is paramount in my view. We are actually panelized by Google today they see each product page as duplicating meta-data. We want to call out our Products not bury them, I agree with vinyltoupee, we need this functionality.
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This is a simple idea and a must for anyone expecting their products and categories to show up in Search Engine Result Pages. Are there any plans to include a page title, description, and keywords field on the add product and add category pages?
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Custom fields is on high-priority for me as well... otherwise I will have to have duplicate pages for products. Has anyone managed this?
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Really interested in this too.... CK
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Custom fields for title, description and keywords for every product or category would greatly help Shopp based sites in the search engines.
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I am very interested in this as well.
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not sure when this will be implemented, for now I added this to my Shopp.php file at line 729 (1.08)
function titles ($title,$placement="left") {
$sep=" : ";
if (empty($this->Product->name) && empty($this->Category->name)) return $title;
if (!empty($this->Product->name)) $title = $this->Product->name.$sep.$title;
if (!empty($this->Category->name)) $title = $this->Category->name.$sep.$title;
return $title;
}
This prints out: Product Name : Category : Site Title
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I'm with vinyltoupee on this one. Three fields for Title, Description and Keywords configurable directly from Shopp's product editor would be fantastic! Shopp products are the only area on our site where we can't easily configure this, and Shopp products are possibly where those are most needed. Thanks for considering this feature request!
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totomobile: How does your code snippet differ from the original and what is the benefit?
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So the Release notes for 1.0.9 now say that there is now "Added integration support for AIOSEOP canonical URLs". How do we update the Product URLs to be SEO Friendly URL's?
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jmonson: Not sure if 1.09 has this fixed already.. but my snippet just forces the product title to be the First thing that shows up, and also adds the site title at the end. better for SEN suposedly
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So is that all this Fix does? Just the product title - does it not do anything with URL's? What is the reference to URL's in the 1.0.9 release notes then?
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Any ideas when/if SEO ideas will be implemented in Shopp, or to have it interact with Platinum SEO Pack or All in One SEO Pack?
- I miss being able to set a specific <Hx> tag for separate pages (with a smart header.php file using the "is_front_page()". It would be great if Shopp, for all separate pages - such as product, category and front pages - could support it.
- I need to be able to set separate headings for each product and category page. Can't get any of the two seo plugins to work properly with Shopp. Without Shopp it's no problem at all getting them to work.
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Only just noticed this problem as well.
Not only is it a problem from a Duplicate Meta Tag point of view, it will also be reducing clickthrough rates.
Which would you click on:
Website Name
Or
Product - Category | Website Name
Can this be moved to a priority feature?
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Any progress on this? It's incredibly important to be able to customise page title, description & keywords (though keywords are pretty much ignored by Google now), h1's etc. Given that this is a shop, i.e. being used for commercial reasons then I would have though this should be top priority? Is there a problem that stops this being possible?
I'd really like to know as this is a deal breaker for us.
Thanks
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+1 for integration with an SEO plugin (like all-in-one-SEO).
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Has any one found a solution to this? It is important.
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Headspace2 is a much better SEO plugin for wodpress. The developer for this plugin is very good and has others as well. You may even find a solution with him.
http://urbangiraffe.com/plugins/headspace2/
Hope to get this sorted out too. It's pretty damn important.
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We wrote a quick little plugin to help with this. It'll allow the entry of a custom title/description for each product. As Google appears to have dropped keyword support a while ago, we didn't add support for that.
Feel free to grab the plugin here:
http://www.bravenewcode.com/2010/01/adding-seo-support-to-the-shopp-commerce-plugin/
It's quick and dirty, but it works on our test servers.
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Thanks Duane for sharing.
As for the Headspace2 vs. All-In-One SEO debate, I've used both. the AIOSEO seems easier to use. Although, I've been debating about stopping use of both plugins and just rolling the SEO into the theme using custom write panels.
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